Right before I walked out to the floor for our final general council session yesterday morning, Jacqueline Smith, International Evangelist for the Church of God and another mother in the Lord, grabbed me by the shoulder and looked me in the eye. “Speak for me today, Jonathan. Speak for Grandma.” As if I wasn’t emotional enough, that flat tore me up. We didn’t get to speak to the issue again, since the motion to reconsider was defeated by a 2/3 majority Friday morning. So there was no place to speak. But there was plenty of opportunities for fireworks yesterday afternoon when the whole body debated the role of women on church councils.
I suppose I should have been in better spirits after the historic vote yesterday. The measure allowing women to serve on church councils had passed the general council of ordained bishops by a margin of 1085 votes to 1080, and then passed the whole assembly yesterday by an equally narrow margin of 50% to 49%. It is a step in the right direction. As I’ve maintained consistently, it is not “progress” per se, as it really is a denomination with an identity crisis recapturing its heritage. (The measure to allow the ordination of women bishops failed to make it through the general council.) At any rate, it is hard for me to celebrate, considering all I experienced this week.
As I have stated before, I do not disrespect or dishonor my brothers who disagree with me. But I take real issue with some of the tactics I’ve seen this week (and I’m not even going to talk about the now infamous “bra and panties” speaker that was condemned by the General Overseer and the body–that is not even worthy of discussion).
Let’s start with yesterday:
I loved it when the member from Florida got up yesterday and said, “There are people this week who keep bringing up names of people like ‘Margaret Gaines.’ You can’t bring up personalities in Roberts Rules. And besides, we don’t even know if these people are properly representing what they think, since they aren’t here to speak for themselves.” He was at a microphone near me, so I said “I can help you with that!” Since I didn’t give a speech this week, I assume the remarks weren’t directed to me. Many people used actual examples of actual female leaders in our tradition to inform and shape the debate, an entirely appropriate move.
But Pastor from Florida, since you brought it up…I’ll be your huckleberry. You are correct that Margaret was not here this week. She is 78 years old, and her vision problems have become severe in the last few months. We are hoping that she is not going blind. Despite multiple heart issues and increasing lack of mobility, she just took over as interim pastor at a church of about 20 people in Alabama, because she so loves the Church. So you got it, Mr. Member–she couldn’t participate in our reindeer games at the assembly this year. She has led men, under the authority not only of the Spirit but of the Church of God, on the field for over 50 years in the most volatile parts of the world. She has served as a regional overseer twice at the request of her executive leadership. So yeah, I don’t think Margaret is misrepresented in that she would in fact be in favor of women serving on church councils. We talk frequently.
I mean really, how DARE someone bring up a TESTIMONY in a conversation about doctrine at a PENTECOSTAL assembly? I’m sure they wouldn’t have allowed such a thing when deliberating about the inclusion of gentiles at the Jerusalem council in Acts–oh wait. Testimony was the ONLY argument in that debate. It is clearly the Pentecostal way to talk about abstract ideas detached from story and community, in cold scientific terms, right? (Should we be able to have this conversation without looking our mothers in the Lord in the eye?) I wasn’t aware that it was ideal for followers of Jesus to be attentive ONLY to principles to the exclusion of the consideration of actual persons.
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a speaker protest the use of personal examples and testimonies on the assembly floor. But of course I could see how using the example of one of the great saints of the Church of God on the floor could really taint things. And clearly, it could not be part of our calling as men of God to speak on behalf of those who can’t speak for themselves, right?
Also yesterday, I was perplexed when a former elected International Director of Youth and Christian Education, now serving as a state overseer, called a rather arbitrary point of order while one of the leading female Pentecostal scholars of our tradition was giving her speech yesterday. The point of order was that while Dr. Johns was speaking to the body, she referred to women in leadership. His objection was that since councils only serve in an advisory capacity only, it was out of order for her use the term “leadership.” Perhaps this was intended to help the cause, though that didn’t seem to be the spirit of it. Here’s my beef: He’s had many opportunities all week to address the body. As an overseer and a former executive leader, you get myriads of opportunities to speak from the seat of authority. Is it really too much to ask that when one of our great female leaders has the RARE opportunity to address our entire tribe, you let her finish without calling a random point of order? I don’t know if he just thought he was being fair and standing up for parliamentary procedure. I do not intend to slur the speaker or his ministry. Whatever his intention, it just felt like one more way even in the one discussion where the opinions of female ministers are appropriate and invited–that they still can’t catch a break.
And then, as we have heard all week, we heard again yesterday: we can’t put women on church councils because it could open up the door to ordain homosexuals. Now of course, the Assemblies of God and Foursquare churches, our most comparable classical Pentecostal denominations, have long ordained women and had them in all levels of local and regional leadership. Neither of them have ever considered ordaining homosexuals, not even in passing. Would that be pertinent to the discussion?
Probably these examples are irrelevant, because what this is about is hitting the panic button. There is no better way to stir up fear than make broad overgeneralizations and cry “Lions and tigers and gays—Oh my! Lions and tigers and gays—oh my!” The same speech that inferred such things actually made the claim that the other side was making emotional appeals, based on sentimentality not on Scripture. Watch this move: you slur the opposing view for being emotional, cast your own view as “nothing but the Word of God” and then stir up the emotions of people on the floor by making an arbitrary association with homosexuality. And before you bring up Episcopalians and Presbyterians, let me head you off at the pass to say we are not remotely analogous to those traditions, but exactly analogous to the AOG’s and Foursquare folks. You can’t pass that over. I think it’s fear-mongering. The denominations that have fully endorsed women at all levels of ministry AND come from Holiness/Pentecostal roots have not even considered such a move. (for examples, see these position papers from the Assemblies and Foursquare churches here (and type “the role of women in ministry as described in Holy Scripture” for the pdf), here or here. Note their own interpretations of Scripture.)
To be clear, the speaker who made those particular remarks yesterday is a good brother whom I love and respect, from my home state. He served as my grandparents’ pastor at one time. I honor and love him, and if I was sick he’s the kind of person I would ask to pray for me. He has always been good to me, and I believe he deeply loves and knows God. I don’t think it was his intention to simply hit buttons. He spoke from his heart. Nonetheless, even in sincerity, I think the inattentiveness to the broader context of Pentecostal tradition makes these statements frankly reckless at best.
The same goes for the multiple accusations from that side of the aisle that those who favor these changes don’t believe in the authority of the Bible (which prompted the 85-year old Dr. Hollis Gause to give the biggest smack down I’ve seen on the floor: “If any man here says Hollis Gause doesn’t believe in the verbal inspiration of the Bible, I’ll meet you in the state overseer’s office next week.”) When guys like Dr. John Christopher Thomas, the most respected New Testament scholar in the Church of God, gave a nuanced defense of his position from Scripture, the response was to minimize the study of Greek and Hebrew and cling to the King James Bible—not engage anything he actually said. Do these members REALLY believe that men like Gause…or Thomas…or G.D. Voorhis…or our ENTIRE executive committee and executive council from top to bottom…don’t believe in the authority of Scripture?!?
Same deal here, brothers: it’s fear-mongering. Don’t say we are emotional because our hearts break for our sisters and mothers in ministry, and then stir up rabid emotional responses from your own incendiary rhetoric. Accusing brothers of not believing in the supremacy of God’s Word because they interpret it differently from you is out of bounds. I have little patience for that double standard.
I know there are people who love me who cringe when I say such things, not because they disagree because they don’t want me to “hurt myself.” That’s what some prominent people said 2 years ago, you know. “He really hurt himself…That guy could have gone a long way in denominational leadership, but now he will never have the chance.” Let me set the record straight. The highest and most sacred office in our movement is that of pastor. I know of nothing higher to aspire to become. That is part of why these debates are so strange to me—our forefathers 100 years ago deemed that women were qualified by the Spirit for this high call, and those men were demeaned and derided for it. They weren’t influenced by culture or secular modes of “progress,” they were following the Spirit and the Scripture. Now people who advocate women on councils, who operate in a SUBORDINATE role to pastors in our context, are accused of liberalism?
Hear me well: I have no intentions of being coy about deep convictions regarding my mothers and sisters in the Lord for the sake of some hope for denominational middle management. I have every intention to lead from the field, in the most stable and powerful job we’ve got, a job I was not elected to and will not be elected out of. I don’t have to worry that if I don’t shake enough hands, kiss enough babies, or give enough bland platitudes that I might get demoted. I’m not on the campaign trail. I’ve got a job, thank you very much, and it is the greatest gig in the world serving the greatest people in the world.
So having got that out of my system for now–I am going to go back to it. On the heels of such heated debate, It is good for those of us on all sides to take a breath, heal and pray for one another. But it’s not over.